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Post by strobe on Jul 7, 2008 16:11:48 GMT -5
Hi all, Long time since I've been here, not been playing or skinning LFS much lately. I see the standards here are still as frighteningly high as ever though! I'm working on a skin design that has a white section on the lower and rear parts of the car. Problem is, it looks too clean. I'd like to make a dirty version, but whenever I've tried it in the past, it looks like someone has attacked my skin in Photoshop with a blotchy airbrush whilst having an epileptic fit. Does anyone have any instructions or guides on how to get good looking dirt effects in Photoshop CS2? I'm thinking along the lines of some subtle grime from the air being sucked up the back of the car, road muck coming from the wheels, exhaust dirt and heat, etc (as opposed to mud splatters from rallying or something). Many thanks in advance for any help.
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Post by MAGGOT on Jul 8, 2008 10:41:43 GMT -5
First suggestion, have a good long look at pictures of endurance racers at the end of the race. Look at where and how the dirt collects. It has a lot to do with the airstream over the bodywork. There's a few great examples on Mulsanne's Corner if you can find them.
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Post by strobe on Jul 14, 2008 14:35:46 GMT -5
Thanks. Great site that, btw - wasn't aware of Mulsanne's Corner before now. Found a few pics of dirty cars, mainly the Toyota GT-One, which unfortunately bears little resemblance to an XFG. However what I find myself needing the most help with is the actual process of applying dirt, rather than applying it in the right places. I'm looking for any tips or advice on what brushes, layers, or techniques are used to create some convincing road grime. I used to have an FO8 skin that had some fantastically realistic grime on it - unfortunately I don't have the skin anymore, but I'm pretty sure it originated from here. Linsen, maybe? Either way, it was great looking dirt. I can experiment with getting dirt in the right places, but first I need to be able to create dirt and grime that looks vaguely realistic.
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Post by MAGGOT on Jul 14, 2008 14:56:54 GMT -5
Well, I don't have much in the way of experience with it, but I'd guess looking at some grunge brushes may be an option? Look at ones that don't contain any actual reference to objects/symbols, obviously, and have a bit of a play. Look at the colouration of the grime, too; if it's a road-going car, it'll probably mostly be rubber marks, oil/other fluids, carbon dust, etc. A rallycar will probably have dirt, mud, etc and so on and so forth. Wish I could be more help in the actual technical creation part of things, but I don't have much experience. My 'Rally-X' versions of skins are usually just some scratches with faint brown patches all over the place [EDIT] Oh yea, try to find some late-race pics from the Nordschleife 24 hour races, might give you better reference of how grime looks on something like the XFG
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Post by strobe on Jul 16, 2008 14:04:46 GMT -5
Cheers - hopefully some master skinner that has experience of applying some grime will see this and can advise on the technical side of creating the effect. Thanks for the suggestion of the Nordschliefe 24 hour - will go check it out.
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Post by Al Heeley on Jul 20, 2008 17:43:32 GMT -5
Go check out some of the GTR2 templates you can download, www.gtr4u.de/jgs_db.php?action=showkat&katid=54&sid=a lot of them have photoshop-format files with a specific dirt layer on them; you can look at these for ideas of applying the technique to the LFS cars.
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Post by Tim on Jul 26, 2008 15:40:00 GMT -5
Hey, just a quickie: If you're in the UK Top Gear magazine (the issue with James May's book free) has some great pics of a post-Le Mans DBR9 EDIT: ...in Gulf colours, always good!
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Post by strobe on Aug 11, 2008 16:03:33 GMT -5
Thanks for the tips Al & Tim. And yes, I did see the DBR9 in Top Gear - a heck of a lot dirtier than I need to go, but a useful resource!
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Post by Tim on Aug 12, 2008 14:48:15 GMT -5
Feel a bit of a fraud that you called that a tip but yeah...was very dirty...I'm thinking of going that far with my FXO/FXR though!
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Post by ryder088 on Aug 19, 2008 5:00:23 GMT -5
Actually, I saw a Castrol RB4 skin in the forums, and the grime for the dirty version was actually made with paint but it looked pretty realistic.
Try giving it a go.
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